SPEAKER_00 0:04

Hello, my fellow Dreadites. Welcome to the Dread Alert Podcast. Today we're joined for an extra special episode by an extra special guest. We're joined by Rebecca Kennedy from the film Traumatica, which hits theaters on September 12th. Rebecca, thank you so much for joining us today.

SPEAKER_01 0:18

Thank you. Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it.

SPEAKER_00 0:21

Yeah. First, let me embarrass you with a giant dump of praise for your performance. I thought it was haunting and heartbreaking. I thought it was terrifying and tragic. And it is a feat to achieve such a wide vacillation back and forth playing with the audience's allegiances. It was really just masterfully done.

SPEAKER_01 0:41

Thank you. Thank you so much. That's that's so very kind. I'm gonna, like I said, I'm gonna take you around with me because that's just that means a lot to me. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_00 0:49

Yeah. Uh well, why don't we jump in? Tell us a little bit about how Traumatica made it to the theaters. How did this project come to life?

SPEAKER_01 0:57

Yeah, so I worked with the guys, um Max and Pierre, the director and producer on a film called Two Witches that came out in 2022. And so, you know, I I knew them. Um, we had a great, you know, working relationship, but I actually wasn't the first thought of for Traumatica because originally the character was written to be older. She was written to be like a grandmother type. Uh Pierre, I guess, played this video game. I'm not sure what it's called, where um a grandmother kind of chases a kid around the house. So that was kind of the the where it started. And um I guess the the woman that they originally had approached couldn't do it for some reason. And then um, so he contacted me and he was like, you know, I'm looking for an actress that's older. Do you do you might know it? And any anybody that wants to do it. And I said, well, let me think about it and I'll get back to you. And then the next day he said, Hey, do you want to do it? And I was like, I would love to. I mean, I, you know, what am I getting myself into, right? Um, I read the script and I knew immediately that they were gonna make it crazy and it was gonna be well, well worth being a part of. Um, like you mentioned, the app, the role of Abigail is so, there is such a wide range to her. She has such an arc. I love that she starts in one place and you think you know her, and then you it gets turned on its head. And by the end, I hope you have some sympathy for her. And like you said, maybe you're heartbroken for her in the situation she's in. Um, so I was happy to jump on board. They're such uh collaborative, amazing uh filmmakers to work with that I knew was going to be a great experience. So that's how that kind of came to be. And then we filmed, we filmed in 2023, and then 2024 was the festival run. So we we played in uh London at Fright Fest, we played in uh Steges in Spain and uh some other festivals around the world. And then um, you know, they they were able to, they have a sales agent that was able to sell it to uh Saban Films, is who bought it. And I had, you know, I've done quite a few indies now, uh indie horrors, and I, you know, I expected it just to, you know, get bought by someone and then it would go on a streaming like we, like you do, and and it would live there and that'd be great. Um, you know, it's uh uh two witches is now on AMC Plus and Shutter, so it's a it's a great platform to be a part of. I had no expectation of a theater. Um, and then when they said theaters, I thought, okay, I'm going to be cautiously optimistic. I'm, you know, I've I've heard that before. And you, you know, you get maybe eight to ten theaters, and you know, that's that's fine. That's something. It's, you know, people get to still see it. It's great. And then when I realized what was happening, that they were looking at, you know, over 700 theaters, um, my heart was like, what? That's incredible. I had no, I just did not dream of that. So the fact that um people are getting to see it, see the hard work that they've put into this, see the performances of the actors is just uh dream come true.

SPEAKER_00 3:55

I'm excited for people to see this in a theater. I watched it at home. We we were lucky enough uh to get a screener, and I'm probably going to be in the theater with the rest of the audiences because I think this film will benefit from being seen on a big screen. It is uh relentless, I think is what I said to my wife when we watched it together. My wife is our co-host, uh, and so we we watched it together, and she was like, that is not good for my family-friendly horror channel. Um, but yeah, relentless film. Um well, so you you've done some indie horror. Is there anything else you'd like to highlight on this performer journey? It we I was an actor for many years and a director in theater. So I understand that when you have this one role that gets you in 700 theaters, there are dozens of roles that come before that to pave the road. Yeah, is there anything like you'd like to highlight?

SPEAKER_01 4:46

Yeah, I mean, definitely like, I mean, there's been so many um great opportunities, like, you know, of course, working with them and two witches. I did another film called The Veil that you can see behind me. Um, that, you know, is a is a thriller mystery. It's not uh not quite as relentlessly uh terrifying, but it's a it's a great um a story about redemption and forgiveness and what it would look like if you got a second chance at doing something that, you know, a mistake you made when you were young. Um I did another film called Crust that uh Sean Whelan uh directed and is stars in as well, who's my business partner, who's also has a small role in Traumatica. And so it's it's fun to get to um have him join me in this film as well. Um and then, you know, I've then when I first started this journey, I was in a film called House Hunting. And that that movie kind of showed me that I wanted to do this because I had that was my first feature. It was in another state. We filmed for a month, and at that point, I'd only really done student films and short films, and so I had no idea if this is I could actually do this, or you know, I would be able to actually be capable of doing it. So that film always will hold a special place in my heart because um it was the one that kind of introduced me to the love of doing this. Um and then, of course, like that my I'm lucky enough to have been on uh some great TV shows like Lawrence or SVU and Criminal Minds and Station 19. And I recently did a stint on uh Lincoln Lawyer, and all those experience had experiences have definitely shaped me as an actor and helped me grow and expand and hopefully be better at my craft every time I, you know, I'm on set. So um, and there's a things I haven't mentioned, of course, because because I can't mention everything, but um, you know, so much so I'm thankful so many of my projects have um shaped who I am as a person and as an actor, and hopefully I get to grow and be better from each one.

SPEAKER_00 6:41

I think it's important that you bring your person to the roles. I mean, that that's that's the craft, right? That's what it is. I wonder, did you have a specific approach for playing this character? Because we we talked about it twice already. There's so much, you know, from I I was sure you were the villain. I was sure you were the antagonist of this film. And then to feel so sympathetic to uh towards your character by the third act of this film, was there an approach that you had or something that you brought forward from your from your history uh that helped you do that?

SPEAKER_01 7:12

Yeah, that's a great question. Yeah, I mean, like you said, when I first read the script, I was like, okay, she's the villain, all right. And then as I kept reading, I was like, okay, this is this is now I'm excited. Now I'm really um excited to to approach this and the challenge it's going to bring. And I approach it like any other, you know, any other role really. Um I can't relate to her situation. Um, I've never been possessed, thankfully, um, or other the other things that have happened to her, but I feel like she is someone that is lonely and lost and looking for someone to understand her. And she feels like no one could possibly understand her situation. She feels very unseen. And I feel like I could relate to that in my own life, and I feel like a lot of us probably can at some point in our lives. And so I find my way in that way first. I have to uh connect to the character, I have to have a personal connection. Um, and so that helps me be grounded and rooted in some kind of reality because the fact, you know, the the situation around her is for me is is is crazy, right? It's it's almost too much to wrap my small brain around what is happening to her. And because I haven't experienced this kind of trauma, I have to find another way to connect instead. And so I start there, and then the situation, you know, is the situation, and that's that comes with a lot of imagination and curiosity and empathy for people that have been um through something similar, even though it's a horror film and it obviously deals with things that um are very much out there, there still are going to be people that are watching um that have gone through situations with uh family members like she has, uh, with a pregnancy like she has. And I'm always aware of that and I want to be respectful of that as well, because I even though it's in within the horror space, we're still dealing with real themes and real trauma. And so I I never want to seem like I am making fun of or not rooted in that reality. And so that that really helps because then the situation is a situation and it's gonna come from, like I said, imagination and play, and you know, you know that as a director and an actor. And that rootedness and groundness then um helps me be able to um, you know, imagine what it would be like if this was happening, if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 9:41

Absolutely. These are one of my favorite questions to ask because, first of all, it's selfish. I'm just curious about your process and you know, and I get to relive my days uh in front of an audience as well, because I think you hit the nail on the head. It has to be from a truthful place, and whatever way you can find into that is is your way in. And for we haven't talked about this, but this is a demonic possession film. And it uh it is a very, you know, I think my opening to my review was this is gonna be traumatic. And you know, there you should be prepared for that as an audience. There are that it's not one kind of trauma. I think uh the the film opens saying there are five types of childhood trauma, and I feel like you've hit all five. Um with a film this dark, I wonder what was the general vibe on set?

SPEAKER_01 10:25

You know, it's it's funny because um it, you know, it's not a comedy, right? So it's not like oh laugh, laugh, laugh, but but it's it's a space of it's it, there's still a sense of peace and calm and respect for the work. And of course, it's a great experience working with those guys. I would follow them to the ends of the earth because I know I'm gonna be protected and safe, and they're going to set up an environment that allows me to do those role, to do this role and to do those situations. Because if you don't feel comfortable, then you you're in your head and you don't feel like free, you know, to be able to really perform. Um, so you know, there wasn't a lot of laughs. There was one scene in particular, you know, some scenes that were more fun, like the dancing scene and and a lot of the stuff at the beginning when she's chasing the boy around the house that was more fun to film. Um, but they, you know, they they keep the set, it doesn't feel I never feel stressed or pressure, or they if they feel stressed, they don't ever let on. They never let me know that they feel that way. And it just um it feels like a place of just of respect. And they they love horror films so much. They always say it's, you know, a a fan, like fans are making films, you know, like it's I'm a fan of, you know, they're such a fan of the genre that um there comes a seriousness to it, of course, and a sense of play. And they wanna, they want to find the best thing we can in each scene. And um, it's just a really fun experience in that sense because I get to try things and do things I've never gotten to do before. And they really let me expand and find while the camera is is rolling, which you don't often get to do. So um I it's a it's a joy to to work with them.

SPEAKER_00 12:12

That's amazing. I love to hear that. Uh and safety, I think, for a film like this is just crucial. And so that's really refreshing. I I did not know what your answer would be. I I uh and I'm glad it was that. It makes me feel great about being a fan of this movie.

SPEAKER_01 12:28

Yeah, it did not, it was not a traumatic experience to by any means. And and the boy and the the boy that plays Mikey Raynon, we kept him protected. He he never saw me in the makeup. He never, he didn't, I don't even know if he really knew we were making a horror film. You know, he just you know was mimicking the, you know, okay, now you're sad, now you're scared. And they told him just enough to, you know, he had no idea what was happening in the movie. So so that um that helped keep the set a certain vibe, you know, it didn't feel heavy, if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 12:59

And and child performances are really hard to get, and he nails it. So that's like credit to your director and your production team for sure. Yeah. Well, you mentioned makeup. I wonder, because you spend more than half of this film in some pretty severe. I mean, all of your on-screen appearances have some makeup appliances, but um, some more severe than others. What was that experience like? That's something I've never encountered personally uh in terms of a film, but on my face.

SPEAKER_01 13:25

It's interesting. Yeah, it was about an hour and a half to two hour process every every day. Um, KO is our makeup artist, and she also worked on Two Witches, and she's just incredible. I mean, she is so precise. I mean, every um blister on my face is individually put. They're not, it's not a it's not a mask that goes on. It's she's so she's got to match every day what she's done the day prior. And I just I'm blown away because I would like it would drive me nuts. Like I would never be able to like do that. My my OCD would be like, I don't know, is this right? Um but she's able to do it, and it adds such a visceral look to her. At the beginning, Pierre and I talked a lot about we wanted me to look different than in two witches. He's like, I don't want you to look like the same character. So, and then we and then a discussion where we talked about, okay, if if you know, trauma lives in the body and a lot of trauma you can't see, you know, you can't, you don't know if somebody's been through something. But what what would it look like if it started to come out and it started to live outwards and you saw it on your her face, and you saw almost like she was being eaten inside out, and what that would look like. And that's what you know, we they created. And I think it's it gives her a such a look that she's hard to forget visually, um, and makes sense, she makes an impression, and there's a interesting uh visceral imagery that he's created within her. And um, I think all like I the first time I saw it, I was like, oh wow, okay. This is intense. Um, and you forget, you forget you're wearing it. So someone new comes and they're you know, they're like, oh gosh. Um like, hi, hello. Um, so you know, so that but that adds to adds the character, it adds to her uh feralness that you know when you first meet her, she's at the worst time in her life. So I I loved the look that they created.

SPEAKER_00 15:21

Some of the scariest moments are just jump scares of the makeup. And and those aren't like jump scares that are hollow, there's something on the back end of them. I and and no spoilers, but the demon design as well is just so well executed. I just bracket this out to give some flowers to your to your makeup artist because uh and your design team, because that was really, really effective.

SPEAKER_01 15:43

And that's all practical. So anyone watching it, it's all it's all practical, which is you know hard to do. So props to them, you know.

SPEAKER_00 15:52

Yeah. I I I know that this entire channel and and most of the the reviewers I socialize with, we are all giant fans of practical effects, and I assume that our audience is as well. So yeah, another reason to buy a ticket to this. That's it's really well done. Thank you. Uh there were more than a few challenging scenes in this film. And uh I just wonder, were there any that you looked forward to filming outside of the ones that were just so, you know, probably hard to execute? Were there any that maybe were hard to execute that were exciting, or just something that was pure fun?

SPEAKER_01 16:23

Definitely the dance. That was definitely fun. Um, I had a lot of fun with the scene at the door with the with the cop. Um that was uh really kind of fun to like fuck with him and to mess with him. And it was like, what could I, you know, the different it's a short scene, but it's like what could I do to kind of throw him off? Um and the audience, like not really knowing where she's at in this was an interesting uh that was a that was a scene I was looking forward to because it was she doesn't have a lot where she's just talking more normal with someone else. So it's kind of like a peek into what's her happening with her. Um I feel like she really tried to get him to go away, and not because what was inside, but because of what I knew what would happen to him. So there's an interesting dichotomy there of like, you know, without saying anything, but also not letting the audience know that it's what is coming. Because I, you know, at that point you don't know who she is yet. So it's like I don't want to tip my hat, but um, so that was a fun scene. Um, I liked doing the scaring stuff was is always fun. The I never ran on all fours before, so everything in the movie is me. Um, so that was fun trying to figure out making sure that worked. Um, all those were fun because you don't, you know, it's like stuff you never get to do in a movie, you know, you never get to do a scary thing.

SPEAKER_00 17:48

So um I was I was white knuckling that door scene the whole time as an audience member for what it's worth to you. I was like, please, she just go. I know you're doing your job, buddy, but just go. I was way yeah, yeah, white knuckling it. Oh, our review on TikTok actually got age restricted. I had to re-edit and repost it because of the shot of you uh laying down with blood on your face. It was deemed too scary for TikTok. Um, so I just yeah, yeah, fair.

SPEAKER_01 18:18

All right, shout out to us, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 18:20

Yeah, no, it was great. There's some there's some really fun practical scares in this. So yeah, uh looking at this film, it is challenging in a lot of ways. And I mean that in the most positive way possible. I it's challenging as an audience member because it's very scary. It's challenging because the topics that it covers. Uh it's challenging because there are uh there's a a sort of time gap at some points. What would you want an audience to know going into this so that they have the best possible experience? Without spoiling the film.

SPEAKER_01 18:51

Oh, that's a great question without spoiling the film. Um I think there's like kind of two ways you could watch it. One is, you know, on the surface level where it's where it's fun and kind of bonkers and a ride, and there's a lot of scares, and it's a kind of a twisty, you know, you don't really kind of know it's unpredictable, you don't know which kind of way it's gonna go. And then and then you could also watch it in a way of of what's actually what's also going on underneath and what's happening in the conversation that's being um opened up with trauma and generational trauma and what happens to to um the cycle of abuse. Um, so that's that's one thing that's like, you know, I think there's a thing for both kind of viewers. Some people don't, they want just the fun, and that's great, and that it there is that. And then if people want something that has more of a message to behind it, there is that as well. Um you know, yeah, I'd say.

SPEAKER_00 19:51

Yeah. It really does balance both nicely. I think it has something to say, and I I also think that you could just go in and get the pants scared off of you. Uh that's really I love that answer.

SPEAKER_01 20:00

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 20:00

Um but speaking of the the challenges, uh there is a a time jump, and I just want to brace people for this. This is a non-linear narrative, it's not a typical sort of feminine story structure where it loops back upon itself, but it is uh a fractured narrative. I think we said in the review, the narrative is as fractured as our main character Mikey's psyche. And uh we have a a jump there. Were there production challenges surrounding that, like location or you know, pro uh set design or just you know, I don't want to go too much into the details. I'd love there to be that surprise of that third act, but I did want to brace people for it.

SPEAKER_01 20:37

Yeah, I mean, I I wasn't like, are you talking about when it when it jumps to the present day?

SPEAKER_00 20:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:43

Um yeah, I mean, I I don't know. I can't speak to that because I wasn't involved in those scenes. So I I don't I wasn't on set, so I don't know how how it was filming that that um part of it. Um I do love one reason I loved the movie because of the nonlinear storytelling, especially in my part, because it would be easy to tell my story the way that is chronologically in order, right? Like you see, you meet her, and then the, you know, and then it goes on. But I love that you meet her at the worst time because then you think that you know her, like you said, you think you know who the villain is, and then it challenges you to like think differently, and maybe by the end you're like, I don't know how I'm supposed to feel about her, like because she's doing horrible things, but then you see why. And I love that because it is it's more unpredictable and more um interesting to me to to play as well. Um, so yeah, I can't I can't speak to the second part, but I it's it found it interesting of the way that they told the story.

SPEAKER_00 21:48

Yeah, I I agree with that. And this movie really is an exercise in empathy, uh, and there are multiple characters who demand empathy from you that you may not be willing to give. And we talk a lot. About this, and we have a sort of editorial side page where we talk a lot about horror theory. And I think horror is one of the genres that that require you to put yourself in someone else's shoes, cross-gender and cross-circumstance. And this film is just a shining example of twisting allegiances and demands for empathy. It's it's a brilliant film. I highly recommend you all go out and see Traumatica on September 12th. Um, we have a few more questions that we typically ask our guests, and it's sort of a rundown, and you don't have to think too hard. And if you want to give multiple answers to these questions, you're more than welcome to. Okay. But this is a possession film. It has a stellar demonic presence. Uh, and I was curious what your favorite possession film is.

SPEAKER_01 22:45

Well, that's great. Um, I mean, probably The Exorcist, I'd say, is probably my, I mean, I I appreciate the fact that of course there are some homages to the film in ours, but they we didn't, I didn't want to try to do their film. Like it's we can't, I can't touch their their movie is brilliant. And I don't want to like pretend like we can do something like that that they did. So I think it was great that of course there are like the Easter eggs to the film, but then we tried to take our own spin on it the best we could. Um, because yeah, that that film is so um brilliantly done that you know it's it's hard to even touch.

SPEAKER_00 23:23

Yeah, I think that film probably explores a different set of traumas than than Traumatica does. And and and it's better for everybody's better for it. I think horror is a great vehicle for projecting our fears outward, and we need to project a couple of different ones these days as opposed to those ones. Right, right. Yeah. So what is your favorite horror movie of all time? That is a tough question. A lot of people want to give multiple answers, and you're more than welcome to.

SPEAKER_01 23:48

Okay, so I mean, my all it's it's crazy because my all-time isn't like your traditional um my favorite horror film is a sixth sense. I it's I remember seeing it in the theater and like feeling changed by it. So I don't know why I just got emotional. That's so weird. Um but like I mean that like into that point, I never cried in a horror film before. You know, and I still cry, I'm like literally crying right now. This is like so embarrassing. Um I still cry when I watch it because it's just so underneath it all, it's it's a drama about two people that are just trying to find connection. And that's and that's what we're doing in life. You know, I connected to it. And so while there is, of course, the space for um slashers, and I, you know, those are fun, and I, you know, love seeing crazy kills, there is um something beautiful about a movie that is dealing with like real people, and then you're just putting the horror elements on top. Because if you you know, you could you know take out the good ghosts part of it and it's still a beautifully done film.

SPEAKER_00 25:06

Um so I can't blame I just like I don't know what happened there, but no, no, I saw it in theaters as well, and I don't know that I was uh the same afterwards. Uh first of all, the the ending of that film, uh I mean it's so it's it's it's it's been a while. So if you don't know, but the ending of that film is a giant twist and hit me like a ton of bricks. But I think you're right. I think the twist is less powerful than realizing maybe what was lost in that relationship. Uh just a masterfully done film. I think that is a solid answer. I'm what I've enjoyed most about our conversation today is that we aren't afraid to go into the weeds here about horror as metaphor and what makes a good film and what makes good characters. And that has been just so gratifying. Thank you for that. Uh brightening up my day.

SPEAKER_01 25:52

Watching me just like cry on this. You're my first that I've cried. So there's that.

SPEAKER_00 25:57

Hey, that we're well, I'm glad to have you on the show, not because of that, but because we're talking about real things with horror. I think too often people, and in in the comments, we see this, you know, oh, that wasn't gory enough, that wasn't scary enough. Enough. But what I yeah, what I'm interested in, and I I, you know, I have a sick toddler upstairs right now. What I'm interested in are those relationships and how we can take what's bubbling up in here that I can't maybe put into words or that I am afraid to look at, and how we can put it out here in a safe way and encounter it with characters that, you know, are made up words on a page, brought to life by an actual human being, and and sit, you know, together alone in the dark of the cinema and experience that. So yeah, I think, yeah, good good answer, good answer.

SPEAKER_01 26:43

Um who knew? Who knew I was gonna, you know, just start like, you know, uh yeah, no, you're you're you're right, because it there is a I so I love all the subgenres, right? There's so many and there's something for everyone. If you love slashers, if you love paranormal, if you love whatever you love, there's something out there for you. But as an actor, like, you know, those kind of roles, like you know, Tony Collette in the movie, it's just like that's the right, you know, Haley Joe Osmond, my God, and like you know, uh Bruce Willis, like they're just forget the horror. The performances are just stunning. So I I think horror is not appreciated enough sometimes for the the performances.

SPEAKER_00 27:30

Yeah, and they're taxing performances as well. This is uh you the performance you turn out in Traumatica is is no slouch and probably extremely taxing for you uh as a performer and and and extremely gratifying for me as an audience member. So I'm I'm just I'm thrilled for people to see this. Um and where where can people see Traumatica, if you want to give a plug?

SPEAKER_01 27:51

Yeah, so they can see it in theaters September 12th, which is this Friday. Uh it's come in some theaters, it's out on Thursday, so you can even get a get a quick um, you know, get in before everyone else does. It'll definitely be playing through the week. And then I, you know, we hope to get a second weekend if it does, if it people go and see it. So, you know, it's um indie horror is so important to like support as much as we can because you know, studio films are amazing. I haven't seen the conjuring yet, but I want to. I loved weapons. Um, but you know, we don't have the same, you know, um, you know, same advertising and same, you know, same big budget. So uh when people go and see these, you know, indie horror, it shows the studios that like we want people want to support this kind of stuff. They want to keep supporting um original stories. And um, you know, that's it's so important for us to just be able to keep working.

SPEAKER_00 28:47

You're echoing what we say here all the time. And that's if there's more people seeing horror, there's more horror made. And we have to put, if we're horror fans, if you like just one horror movie, you are a horror fan, but we have to put our money where our mouth is. We have to go out and see these films and support these films. And I find, disagree with me in the comments, but I find oftentimes the indie horror films are doing the most interesting work. So there's a lack of safety in the material, safety on set, but a lack of safety in the material, and that's really exciting. So go out and support Traumatica uh this weekend. We're probably you're probably watching this on Thursday or Friday. If you don't have plans yet, buy those tickets, go see Traumatica. It is well worth your time.

SPEAKER_01 29:26

Thank you. And like you said, really quick, just want to plug really quick is when you mentioned earlier about seeing it in the theater, um, it's it's that's really like it is such a shared experience. I've gotten to see it three times with an audience, and it's such a joy to see people jump and laugh and like freak, you know, scream, and like this one guy like yelled really loudly, oh Jesus, like you can't get that at home. So, you know, I just wanted to put that out there. It's it's it's a I mean, all movies really should be seen in a theater, but horror especially is such a shared experience.

SPEAKER_00 30:00

Yeah, and this score is is amazing. The sound design is amazing. I have so many, we could go on for hours about the production elements here that I enjoyed. Uh that's not why we're here. Um, but yeah, I think that all of those things are amplified by a really good sound system and a really clear picture. There's some really creative cinematography that Pierre uses, especially in the early parts of this film, that would be amazing on a big screen. So I'll be there, that's for sure. Thank you. Where can people find you on social media if they want to keep up to date with what you're working on next?

SPEAKER_01 30:31

Yeah, I'm on Instagram at Becca B-E-K-H-K. I'm on X, I'm on Facebook, I'm trying to be better on TikTok. As you've seen, I'm not a I'm not great. I'm not, I'm trying. I'm really trying. So we'll see. You know, maybe I'll do some videos and then I'll never do it again because that's me. But and I've said this before, I'm like, anything I make, just know the person behind it is so awkward and like doesn't know what she's doing. And it's like, I don't know. We're just gonna, I I I marvel at the people on there that are like so confident and like cool and like can just like do these really cool videos. And I'm just like, I feel like the biggest dork.

SPEAKER_00 31:12

Your TikTok today was super charming. I loved it. Your lip sync into the makeup. It was first of all, I enjoyed seeing the makeup again, but it was super charming. Don't sell yourself short. You're worth, you're worth a follow. And we'll put that all in the description of this video.

SPEAKER_01 31:26

That's great.

SPEAKER_00 31:27

Um, oh, my pleasure. Anything that you're working on next that you want to plug? Anything that you can talk about?

SPEAKER_01 31:32

Yeah, I have a movie uh called Swipe that it's a horror film that I uh I'm acting in. It's got Elaine Hendrix from The Parent Trap and Haname Lee from Pitch Perfect, uh Ray Siantiago from Ashes versus the Evil Dead and a bunch of other amazing actors. Sean Whelan directed it. It's in post now. We just wrapped in uh March. Uh so hopefully that will be coming out uh next, you know, next year. I that was my first uh producing a feature. So I'm really excited to be on the other end of things. Um I've got a few things in development that I'm working on, and I've got another film called uh Regression that I filmed in October that hopefully will be coming out um next year as well. And then I have a a little a little part in the new uh VHS Halloween. So you'll you'll you probably won't recognize me because I look insane. But um I after it comes out, I will be able to like post what I look like um in that in that segment.

SPEAKER_00 32:32

That's amazing. That's premiering at Fantastic Fest. And while we won't be able to see it as remote press, we will be covering a lot of Fantastic Fest, and we'll be vastly looking forward, greatly looking forward to seeing it when it uh hits Shutter. That's so exciting.

SPEAKER_01 32:45

I haven't seen it yet, but I am excited. I'm excited to, it's uh yeah, I'm excited to be able to see it.

SPEAKER_00 32:51

That's so cool. I'm I'm so excited for you. I cannot thank you enough for taking the time to talk with us today. This was a really uh personally gratifying conversation. I hope our listeners and viewers had the same amount of excitement as I did because uh you brought up some really interesting things. I just want to bracket one thing that I thought was so cool was the outward expression of trauma through the makeup design. That's something that I didn't consider. And I'm like, as a reviewer, I'm like, shame on you because it's so clear. No, no, but it's so clear and it's such a good visual metaphor. And like these little things, I hope that if you're listening to this before you've seen the film, you can go in with a better appreciation. Or if you're listening after you've seen the film, because I know you're gonna see the film, yes, that it makes it more rich for you. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you for joining us.

SPEAKER_01 33:34

Yeah, thank you so much for having me. You're so kind, we appreciate your support so much. It just means a lot. And thank you for letting me like cry on your on your podcast.

SPEAKER_00 33:42

Oh my goodness. We no judgment here. We all love horror. We all love horror. Well, that wraps up for today. As always, stay spooky, my friends.